Friday, December 15, 2006

2006 - The Year of Saving Fat People From Themselves

Seriously - this is getting out of control.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

You knew this was coming when they began calling obesity a disease.

Its the only way to beat the liberatarian counterargument built around one's right to live as they see fit.

Rebecca said...

But how will we know what to eat, how much to eat, when to excercise, how much to excercise if the Government doesn't tell us?

Anonymous said...

This is just one of those issues Im hoping science will clear up before we get into a real political crisis over it. They're aleady testing a vaccine against one of the hormones that triggers fat production in humans, so I suspect that we'll stop having to worry about this shit so much within a couple of decades.

Anonymous said...

By forcing people to be immune to corpulence. Woot.

Anonymous said...

Who said forcing? What the hell?

Anonymous said...

Science doesnt answer the should.

Should I take the vaccine? If not, and im fat will all the current arguments against fat people apply to me in the future. Will there be legislation forcing me to take the vaccine?

Anonymous said...

No, because there are currently no laws forcing fat peopl themselves to do jack squat; all the laws are on businesses, intended to help fat people who want to lose weight (or, to be fair, to shame hem into wanting to lose weight; still, no one has advocated forcing fat people to actually do anything). Once it's trivially easy for fat people to become skinny by taking a vaccine, the onus on the companies where they get their calories is gone; they could choose to be skinny at any time, so clearly all the fat we put into our foodsis irrelevant. Once being overweight becomes a fashion statement (or even better for liberals, a 'lifestyle choice') instead of a corporation-sponsored disease, then the rhetoric of these fitness groups completely falls apart.

Anonymous said...

Hmm not much i can do with

'Coporation sponsored disease'

Anonymous said...

pay attention, I'm mocking the rhetoric of the fitness liberals behind these measures.
Come on keep up people.

Anonymous said...

Please be more clear not sure what you are tyring to say.

Anonymous said...

I'm saying that the fitness crazies are using the liberal rhetoric of evil corporations hurting the poor and hapless public to bolster their support for these types of legislation. Once a simple medication can prevent obesity, that argument falls apart since anyone can get skinny whenever they wish (assuming everyone has access to the treatment and it has a very high success rate). At that point, being fat is a lifestyle choice rather than a disease; and since liberals are required to support all kinds of crazy lifgestyle choices, the fitness crazies lose their support.

Anonymous said...

Since currently its argued that body weight is a matter of choice its unclear why a vaccines would make rhetorical arguments tying bodyweight to coporations irrevelant.

Anonymous said...

Where and by whom is it currently argued that bodyweight is a matter of choice? If that were the common opinion, obesity wouldn't be classified as a disability for worker's comp, and you wouldn't have this type of law attempting to affect social change (a least, not from far-left liberals). I'm reallyn not familiar with that rhetoric- I hear it referred to as a disease or disability much more often than a lifestyle choice.

Anonymous said...

Please note my original comment. The point here is that people began labeling obesity as a disease as a way of side stepping libertarian argument. It’s only been recently, about a decade, where obesity has been considered a disease.

The most likely reason why obesity was labeled a disease was to force the government and private insurance companies to cover obesity treatment. If this analysis holds, then you can not have a clearer case of using rhetoric to circumvent the obvious libertarian argument to procure funding for a fundamentally non-libertarian endeavor.

In principle having science cure the obesity ‘disease’ is one potential way of managing the problem. However, to me it seems much that the solution is to stop calling obesity a disease but a lifestyle choice. Perhaps more importantly is the passing laws prohibiting insurance companies and the government from being financially responsible for obesity treatment.

I should note two things.

1. Morbid obesity may in fact be a disease requiring actual treatment. I would need to see the argument first.

2. Insurance companies interested in offering obesity insurance should be allowed to. The law I would want to pass is one where insurance companies are no longer compelled to cover obesity treatment in cases where that was not made explicit in the policy.